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Sad times

10 February 2014 21:50

There are times when I'm very proud of the Debian project, the developers, the contributors, the bug-reporters, even the users.

There are times when I'm less impressed.

These days I guess I'm not qualified to comment, being an ex-developer, but I still am disappointed.

Part of me wants to rejoin the project, to see if I can help. The other part is thinking there are other choices, maybe I should look at them.

Conflict is bad.

Being conflicted is worse.



Comments on this entry

icon Wojtek at 14:44 on 10 February 2014

Are you talking 'bout the "init wars"? I'm a bit lost.

icon Steve Kemp at 16:00 on 10 February 2014

Largely, yes.

icon Keith Nasman at 04:27 on 11 February 2014


I hear you. One of the great things about this project is how vast it is. Jump in on another front. I, for one, would miss your keen intellect and DIY attitude.


icon Elena at 12:28 on 11 February 2014

These bits of data from Debian Contributors may help:


With partial data, contributors.d.o lists 649 active contributors since october, and only 77 of them are flaming away on the init system bug.

icon i5513 at 16:24 on 11 February 2014

Debian need people like you. I hope init war will not destroy the Debian world. I hope Debian blends will create Debian with the not chosen alternative init.

I can remember your work in xen-tools. I would like to give you a big thanks for that work (and other Debian related work)!

If you decide abandond Debian, good luck !

icon Nux at 17:44 on 15 February 2014

Don't be sad, Steve. It's normal for things to change. I'm sure even you will find nice, pleasant things to do with systemd.